News flash: new Victorian temperature records for spring – November records smashed

I’ve been watching the BOM site for Victoria: we have seen some truly incredible temperatures today. In at least two locations we saw the temperature exceed 45.

  • Hopetoun – 45c at 2;50pm
  • Mildura 45.5 at 3;37pm

Swan Hill saw the temperature reach 44.8c.

In November . And yes, we are still officially in Spring. Here are previous records, this tells you what records got smashed.

If I read it correctly, a 32 year record was just smashed. 

Official records for Victoria in November: Records valid as of 30 Sep 2012

Rank Value
(°C)
Date Station Name Station
Number
Elevation
(m)
Latitude
(°)
Longitude
(°)
1 44.5 17 November 1980 Mildura Airport 76031 50 -34.23 142.08
2 44.0 25 November 1997 Swan Hill Aerodrome 77094 71 -35.38 143.54
2 44.0 25 November 1997 Ouyen Post Office 76047 50 -35.07 142.32
4 43.6 16 November 1980 Mildura Airport 76031 50 -34.23 142.08
5 43.5 26 November 1997 Bairnsdale Airport 85279 49 -37.88 147.57

I’ll keep readers updated as more information becomes available.

59 thoughts on “News flash: new Victorian temperature records for spring – November records smashed

  1. uknowispeaksense says:

    Bullshit Mike. Everyone knows that data has been “homogenised” and what about the UHI? Al Gore collecting all that money from carbon credits has also paid long haired watermelon dole bludgers from the universities to put down their tofu and go and sabotage the instruments so that he as leader of the NWO and the Illuminati can have justification for not only increasing our electricity prices but implement a new tax to pay for the upkeep of Area 51 and pay off the Nasa employees who faked the moon landing. Did I leave anything out?

  2. john byatt says:

    those temperatures are not hot nor records, up ere in qeesland we would have jumpers on in those temps, oh they are not fahrenheit , sorry my bad

  3. Sammy Jankis says:

    But I’m sure it’s cold somewhere else in the world today…

    • john byatt says:

      Are you a psychic? your spot on, Adak island in the Bering sea will plunge to a freezing 9DegC overnight, just how far off an ice age are we now? ,

      • Watching the Deniers says:

        Damn, the whole climate change hoax falsified…. curses! No more grant money for me or my socialist friends.

  4. Eric Worrall says:

    Hilarious – airport temperature station readings.

    I wonder how much jetwash from aircraft engines they received before reporting those temperatures?

  5. […] demonstrate not only his silliness but also his laziness. Yesterday, Watching the Deniers posted a short piece reporting on a new heat record for Victoria that saw Mildura and Hopetoun both crack 45 degrees C […]

  6. Eric Worrall says:

    Good news, according to NOAA, tornado counts for 2012 are well below normal.
    http://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/

    So it looks like Sandy was an outlier – not the “new normal”.

    Its going to be Katrina all over again – lots of hype about one big event, then fading interest as the promised “new normal” fails to appear.

    • uknowispeaksense says:

      Was Sandy a tornado or a hurricane? oops. But let’s just discuss tornadoes shall we Eric. Tell me, how do the storms that give rise tornadoes in the USA form? I’ll give you a hint. It has something to do with warm air in the south meeting cold air from the north. The differential determines the severity of the storms. Now, if there isn’t as much cold air coming down from the north or if the jet stream is out of whack due to a warmer pole……. just sayin. I’ll give you a 6 for that one Eric.

      • Eric Worrall says:

        Thats interesting Uki – so you think a warmer Arctic will lead to fewer and less severe storms, because there won’t be as much cold air to meet the warm air rushing up from the Equator?

        • uknowispeaksense says:

          Unlike you Eric, I’m not an expert. I’m sure you have the definitive answer though. In terms of this year in the US, the early months saw above average tornadoes. This dropped severely when the jet stream started to stall. This coincided with and caused the severe drought-like conditions through the northern spring. This is what the new normal is about Eric. Bigger short term variations overlaid on long term averages. Am I going to draw long term conclusions based on the difference between 2011 and 2012 though? No. I’ll leave that sort of nonsense to you. What I suspect though, Eric, is that when the Arctic starts to become ice free, over the coming decades, tornadoes in the US will drop off. I also suspect that many will be wishing for the conditions that produce tornadoes because the correspondiong heat and drought predicted will be far far worse.

        • Eric Worrall says:

          I see – so you’re suggesting storms will weaken, but droughts will worsen.

          So Sandy is *not* the new normal – droughts are.

          Have I understood you correctly? Because its a bit difficult to get the alarmist story straight – its difficult to falsify a position which isn’t well defined.

        • uknowispeaksense says:

          Like I said, I’m not an expert like you. But I’ll make it simple for you.

          Sandy, droughts, floods, unseasonal snow, early springs, changes in storm intensities, changes in storm frequencies are all part of the new normal. It’s the lengthening of variance tails that is the new normal. If you don’t know what variance is, don’t forget that book I suggested.

        • Eric Worrall says:

          You’re suggesting an increased probability of what we now classify as extreme weather.

          Why? If the heat differences which drive the system will be reduced in the future, as the arctic warms at a more rapid pace than the rest of the world, where does this extra energy to drive additional high energy events come from?

        • uknowispeaksense says:

          I’m suggesting an increase in variance. It has two tails. Get that book. That change in variance will be temporal and spatial. Make a list of weather phenomena. There are more than just tornadoes. I’m pretty sure the 12.5 x 10^22 joules above the long term average in ocean heat is a fair amount of energy. I’ve forgotten how many Hiroshimas per second that is….or maybe it’s jet wash.

        • Eric Worrall says:

          If both tails are increased, then one consequence is that events we consider “extreme” should become more common.

          That’s a falsifiable prediction – I look forward to examining the data with you.

      • john byatt says:

        There are numerous peer reviewed papers linking the increase in extreme events to human caused global warming. Even restricting the search to 2011, we find Pall et al (2011) Min et al (2011) Dai et al (2011) Zwiers et al (2011} and Coumou & Rahmstorf (2011)

        Years before this mounting evidence confirming increased extreme weather events due to human caused global warming the 2007 IPCC AR4 recognized there significance “It is more than likely than not (better than even odds that there is a human contribution to the observed trend of hurricane intensification since the 1970’s, typhoons and hurricanes will become more intense, with larger peak wind speeds and more heavy precipitation associated with ongoing increases of tropical sea surface temperatures.”

        • Eric Worrall says:

          What observed trend in hurricane intensification? As you can see from the following NOAA graph of landfalling US hurricanes, the trend is essentially flat – there has not been an increase in either the intensity or number of hurricanes.

      • john byatt says:

        Now try reading again and comprehending, if that is possible for you,

        “It is more than likely than not (better than even odds that there is a human contribution to the observed trend of hurricane intensification since the 1970’s, typhoons and hurricanes will become more intense, with larger peak wind speeds and more heavy precipitation associated with ongoing increases of tropical sea surface temperatures.”

        • Eric Worrall says:

          Look at my graph from NOAA website again John – the most intense decade for hurricanes was 1940 – 1950.

          There is no intensification except in the imagination of alarmist climate scientists.

  7. john byatt says:

    2008

    Is the intensity of hurricanes increasing?

    Several peer-reviewed studies show a clear global trend toward increased intensity of the strongest hurricanes over the past two or three decades. The strongest trends are in the North Atlantic Ocean and the Indian Ocean. According to the 2007 Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC-AR4), it is “more likely than not” (better than even odds) that there is a human contribution to the observed trend of hurricane intensification since the 1970s. In the future, “it is likely [better than 2 to 1 odds] that future tropical cyclones (typhoons and hurricanes) will become more intense, with larger peak wind speeds and more heavy precipitation associated with ongoing increases of tropical [sea surface temperatures].

    and you put up a comment about landfall us hurricanes, again your ignorance is on display,

  8. john byatt says:

    Between 1992—when polar satellite measurements began—and 2011, the results show that all of the polar regions except for East Antarctica are losing ice, said study leader Andrew Shepherd, a professor of earth observation at the University of Leeds in the U.K.

    In that 20-year span, Greenland lost 152 billion tons a year of ice, West Antarctica lost 65 billion tons a year, the Antarctic Peninsula lost 20 billion tons a year, and East Antarctica gained 14 billion tons a year. (See an interactive map of Antarctica.)

    “When we did the experiments properly using the same time periods and same maps, the riddles did all agree,” Shepherd said.

    According to glaciologist Alexander Robinson, “We’ve had a good idea of what the ice sheets are doing, but it seems this study really brings it all together in one data set that gives a much clearer picture.

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